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Okay, so I have a random set of questions for anyone reading, and I'd be amazingly happy if anyone would answer in a comment. To give a bit of background, I decided this summer to rewrite a large portion of my ongoing novel. (As in, the first 30,000 words of it.) I know that this rewrite will also probably force me to eventually rewrite the 20,000 words that (for now) remain intact from the original draft.

But I'm looking on the bright side, and using this as a chance to evaluate two strategies I used when writing the previous draft. I'm not completely sure what I think about the use of these techniques as a writer...but I'm looking for the response of readers. So here goes.

Thoughts

Okay, in a lot of books I've read, the readers can see the main character's direct thoughts, which are quoted in italics. For instance:

Oh, man, are we in trouble now, Holly thought as she looked at the monstrous fire-breathing dragon that towered over her.

However, I've also seen it done without the italics. You don't get the direct thoughts, but you can still garner their substance, like this:

As Holly looked at the gigantic dragon towering over her, her first thought was that she and Jasen were in big trouble.

My question to anyone willing to answer is this: when you're reading a book, which style do you prefer? Do you like it better when characters' direct thoughts are heard, or when instead thoughts are "summarized" (best word I can think of)? Anyone's opinion on this would be appreciated.

Point of View

For me this has become a stickier problem, possibly due to the structure of my novel. (I knew I should've listened to dad when he told me it was impossible to write a story with two distinct protagonists...) Nonetheless, that's what I have: a story with two (arguably) distinct protagonists. During the beginning of the novel they're not really separated, so the readers get the same story no matter which of them narrates.

However, later on in the story events start to happen rapid-fire and I'm practically required to change viewpoints more quickly, since the main characters are separated and each has to report on his or her own experiences in order for the plot to advance.

This being the case, my question is: should I switch viewpoints more frequently throughout the whole novel, so that it doesn't come as a "surprise" when I have to make quick switches toward the end? Or should I leave it as it is, without worrying what percentage of the novel is narrated by which character? Again, I'm asking for opinion, I know.

To anyone who takes the time to answer, many thanks are in order! I'm just trying to get the opinions of as many people possible, and sort of hoping that they agree with the conclusions I've nearly reached myself. But if you say different stuff than I've been thinking, then I'll have to think about reconsidering. Either way I find this very useful. Thanks all!

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Date: 2005-09-01 08:04 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kaitins.livejournal.com
okay so i am not really going to give you a clear answer for the first question of thoughts, sorry, but i like both forms, i like to see the characters clear thougths because you get to personally know what is going on in their head, things that maybe no character in the book is going to get to know. however i like the 'summarizing' form because i think it forces the writer to fit it in there without easilt putting italics and saying what they are thinking, which lead to creative interesting writing for me as a reader to read. make sense??

as for point of view, i think you can leave it as it is, the reader will adjust to the more rapid point of view shifts as they come, maybe they will help elevate the tone of fast action because things are going back and forth so quickly.


hope that helped, cant say my opinion in such things can be too highly regarded but all the same i thougth id give you my thoughts.

love kate

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Date: 2005-09-02 02:14 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] readingredhead.livejournal.com
Hey, your thoughts count! I pretty much agree with everything you said and you made a really good point about how quicker POV shifts will help create a more active tone; that's not something I'd really thought of before. Thanks for your input!

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Date: 2005-09-02 04:18 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kaitins.livejournal.com
aww yay! and your welcome ma'am.

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Date: 2005-09-01 09:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pippins-smile.livejournal.com
I think I like the italics form better, if only because that's how I tend to write things out.

And for your double-protangonist situation... First off, that's an awesome thing, I think. I really don't have a definite preference for that, but I do think that near the end of the book, it will push the reader more to the edge of their seat, so to speak, if the changes became more rapid. I don't think the effect would be the same if the changes were quick in the beginning; you know what I'm saying?

Hope I helped. =)

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Date: 2005-09-02 02:13 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] readingredhead.livejournal.com
I definitely get what you're saying about the POV thing, it's true that it'll help if they're not all rapid changes. And thanks for the opinion on italics, too. So far everyone's pretty much agreed with me! But I figured it was something I needed to ask anyway since I don't want to have to do a major rewrite again, so I'm covering all bases with this one. :)

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Date: 2005-09-02 02:33 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pippins-smile.livejournal.com
Very cool; getting opinions is a good idea, especially if we're some of your potential readers.

Except me.

I'm a definite reader.

*grin*

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Date: 2005-09-01 11:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] actress4jesus.livejournal.com
I most definately like the italics, but that is how I usually write my thoughts out in a story or the thoughts of whom is thinking it.

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Date: 2005-09-02 02:11 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] readingredhead.livejournal.com
thanks for the insight! I like the italics, too, but I was having a few reservations about it, so I figured I'd ask...

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Date: 2005-09-02 01:01 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thellamasbanana.livejournal.com
for thoughts, I prefer italics, but sometimes, especially in rapidly moving scenes, summaries of thoughts work better.

Second question: I've read books with different viewpoints that switch a lot. It doesn't really bother me, it just makes the events seem as rapid as they happen. Makes the story seem even more rapid-fire.

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Date: 2005-09-02 02:11 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] readingredhead.livejournal.com
Thanks much for your help! I pretty much agree...and it's not like I could get away with *just* italics for thoughts. Looking back, my question was more so I could figure out whether or not I wanted to use thought-italics at all. But I do so I will!

And I think the same goes for the POV switch...I'm realizing it's kinda silly to try and portion it out so that both characters tell an equal amount of the story.

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Date: 2005-09-04 09:47 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] spadleader88.livejournal.com
my opinion- i like the italics better cuz the audience feels closer to the characters, quite literal, thoughts. it just seems more personal, more connected. i like it a LOT better, but thats just my opinion.

with the point of view question, i dont think it should matter how much of the book is so-and-so's perspective and so on, but i agree with the other people here who say that the speed of the novel, the energy, the enthusiasm, is built better when the author switches perspectives faster during the climax. *shrug* i'm sure whichever way you do it will turn out fine since you're such a fantastic writer!

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Date: 2005-09-04 11:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] readingredhead.livejournal.com
Thanks for your input; I basically agree with what you (and all my other amazing friends) have been saying. Thank you!

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