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In case you could not tell from the title of this post I am now going to talk surprisingly seriously about fanfiction? But mostly as a way of asking questions of others on my flist who may write it/may have written it. (Though of course this won't happen til I go off on a digression!)

My own fandom history is peculiar. I discovered internet fandom via Harry Potter but it was always so effing huge and when the tiny fansite that I had followed from its start ended up closing down and I no longer had a manageably miniature way of participating in forums, reading and reccing fic, keeping up-to-date on news, etc. I basically let go of fandom. (This was in the Days Before LJ so I had no idea what kind of fandom went on through LJ comms!)

Also through Harry Potter, though in a very different way, I ran into the fandom that would become the love of my life, my One True Fandom, if you will: Diane Duane's Young Wizards novels, which I picked up for the first time when in between Harry Potter novels and fell for in a flash. Years later my passion for HP has faded but YW and I are still more-or-less madly in love. It helps that this is a super obscure fandom, easy to keep up with, very supported by the author who runs a discussion forum over at her personal website, and all of the people in it are really kind and supportive (though you'd expect this out of a fandom whose canon depends on the belief that any anger or unkindness, however small, speeds up the heat-death of the universe and plays right into the cosmic antagonist's hands). It is the fandom through which I have made my only non-RL LJ friends!

The point being, I've flirted with other fandoms, but Young Wizards is really my home, and has been for at least the past seven years. I've read all the novels multiple times, I fall asleep listening to the audiobooks on occasion, and characters grew and changed over time and along with me. And this is really the only serious experience of fandom that I have.

Which is why I'm suddenly finding it frustratingly problematic to get my head around writing fic for another fandom. I posted before about how much I loved Scott Westerfeld's Leviathan series, and I really think that it could be a brilliant second fandom home. It's the first fandom since Young Wizards where I've said, "This is something I want to be a part of for a while, not just until the obsession wanes." But my experience coming into the series is so totally different from what I had with YW. I read all three books in the trilogy within the past four months, they haven't been a part of my mental landscape for very long at all, and as much as I want to write ALL THE FIC for them, I find myself feeling weirdly blocked by a sense that I'm just not ready yet.

All of this is an incredibly long-winded way of asking: How do you get yourself to the point where you feel comfortable writing in a new fandom? How do you iron out things like characterization and tone and headcanon and backstory? Do you read a lot of other fic for ideas or do you tend to read and re-read the source material? Is there some magical secret that I have yet to encounter?

Part of the problem is that Leviathan is also a small fandom, but since these are YA novels most fandom participants are probably teenagers...not that this is inherently bad, but it does mean that the kind of discussion I would expect from an LJ comm is a bit lacking in the one active comm for the series... Another part of why Young Wizards is awesome is that a lot of current fandom luminaries are people who might have been teens when the first book was released in the eighties, but are now obviously more mature and care about having philosophical conversations about the nature of the world and the characters, etc.

Guys, I just want to write stories where a girl dressed as a boy and the boy she's in love with go around their alternate universe Europe having adventures and being awesome -- is that too much to ask?

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Date: 2011-11-24 05:18 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rusting-roses.livejournal.com
Well, I don't know if this is going to be at all helpful, but as someone who is extensively involved in about half a dozen fandoms on and off, what I can say is this: it all comes down to the idea.

I find that the fandoms I can really get into are the ones that I have an concept/revisualization/etc that I'm really passionate about. Once I have that core, "What if?" question(s), I think about how the characters would react. If I'm not sure how they would react, I re-read the source material to make sure that I'm writing the character(s) as I see them, not as certain authors within the fandom see them. From there, the story generally builds itself. Within that, though, if I find myself stuck on getting comfortable with the world, I try to find someone I know who is either involved in the fandom or who has at least read/watched the source material who I can discuss things like motivation, gender dynamics, sexuality, intelligence, plot pacing and the like, rather than just expecting, "ALEC IS SOOOO AWSOME!!11!!!" My beta and one of my closest friends actually is involved in practically none of the same fandoms as I am in terms of actual writing or reading. However, she has seen all the stuff that I write for, so I find she's very helpful for things like, "Is Erik being too angst-ridden here?" or "I feel like this conversation between Nita and Kit is missing something".

I hope that is of some help!!

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Date: 2011-11-24 07:08 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] araine.livejournal.com
As the resident one who entertains many deep, mad, passionate affairs with feelings for all fandoms, some short, some long, many at the same time--

I'm just gonna say that you're not alone at all! It's tough getting to know new characters with the same degree of intimacy with which you know old and familiar characters!

I think for me, it depends on how I came to interact with and understand the fandom. Did the source material make me want fic? If so, then I reread the source, or the pieces of the source that most sparked my inspiration (if I'm pressed for time). If it was fanfiction (like it was with Thor fandom), then I reread the fanfiction that I liked, that I adored. Most of the time I stick with the source because fanfiction has a number of associated tropes which interfere with character interpretation, and that I don't always agree with!

And then I guess as always, just write it as best you can? Work out the characterization snags along the way, or later in editing? And, y'know, you can always come whine to me if you think that's necessary. : D

I'd say that you're probably more ready to play with Deryn and Alek and associated supporting cast than you think you are-- although I've never had such a long and monogamous relationship with a fandom like you've had with Young Wizards, so perhaps I'm not the best qualifier. Best of luck!!

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Date: 2011-11-25 05:52 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] octavius-x.livejournal.com
I have to go put the thinking cap on for this a first!

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Date: 2011-11-25 11:37 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hodgetopodge.livejournal.com
I'm afraid my only experiment in fanfic was a my friend's internet stalker / Draco Malfoy erotic adventure. It was desperately bad (though there were some exquisite wand puns) and I only did it to cheer up the somber mood of "there's a creepy man on the internet who won't leave you alone." But I am considering jumping into Doctor Who fiction, if only to have more non-hysterical Who in my life (not to join a community), by which I mean that some of series five and six were rather fandom-y. Any advice on that?

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